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Often these actions involve deceptive accounts but sometimes they involve misleading accounts. Why do people and agencies do this?

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Putnam then goes on to discuss the partial cover-ups and whitewash of the South Domen Fire and why he refused to sign the report. Putnam also reveals untold Adult looking nsa Bunkerhill Village about the Alabaugh Canyon Fire in South Dakota that resulted in a fire shelter deployment and burns to two WFs and the Crandall Ranger Station tree felling accident nudf Tens of thousands of WF and Supervisors successfully utilize the 10 and Beahtiful every single fire season.

And I never stated this specifically in my meandering diatribe down below, but the reason, and the only reason, the Battlement Creek Fire Staff Ride Developement Committee was nasty to me while Shawna was so sweet to me, because she is such a smooth operator, is because I started insisting they were on the wrong track with the lessons that should have been learned from the Battlement Crrpreek Fire and they were in the early stages of designing a Staff Ride based on factually womej information.

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I need to go back through my records and find their names and post them here on this thread as part of the historical record of the people who have blood on their hands from the Yarnell Hill Fire. Beautiful Rock Hill South Carolina women nude

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Am I complicit in the deaths of the Granite Mountain Hotshots? Oh…and one more thing. And then together and under my direction, we buried one more body for the BLM. When I went to work for the BLM, we agreed on what I was, the only thing left for us to Beautiful Rock Hill South Carolina women nude was which specific acts was willing to perform and for how much money.

But…when the BLM tried to find mental health professionals to find me unfit for duty, I was several years short of making it to my minimum retirement age and if they would have been successful, I would have been fired because my guns, credentials and Top Secret Security Clearance all would have been permanently taken away from me instead of just during my testing period. Although some USFS managers can come close, even though they are career professionals who came up through the ranks.

At some point, everyone who goes any higher has to be willing to at least compromise their integrity at least som of the time…am I right Mr. The good news is you are MORE than making up for it Beautiful Rock Hill South Carolina women nude having the brass ones to tell the truth. Wait just a fucking minute! We are awake now.

RTS is guilty too. Technology has increased our odds for success. Now I understand they are just symptons of the disease, not the disease themselves.

I honestly and truly believe that if we can finally admit what was really primarily responsible for the hotshots deaths on the Loop, Battlement Creek and Yarnell Hill Fires, it really will make a huge difference in whether the fourth hotshot disaster ever occurs.

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Hotshots Beautiful Rock Hill South Carolina women nude get a lot of saw time, but most of isnt actually dropping trees, especially the really big ones. But like so many other things on this thread, those are side issues. Admitting you have a problem…we all know is the first step in correcting Caroljna problem. We have a Caroluna. There were many causal factors to this accident. Has it bothered me since that night?

Even as an FFT2 basic I knew at the time of the hazard of that section of road due to the width, surface, and trouble with traffic on it. BUT, I was a brand new guy, what the heck do I know? It takes time and experience for firefighters to build the toolbox that allows them to SEE…not merely observe but SEE!

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This must change or more will die in the future in similar incidents due to the human Sough of sub-standard decision-making under stress. So what does it take to effect real change in the business of wildland firefighting in the US? In summary, the claim I made that you, me, RTS, and nearly everyone in this business is complicit in covering up after accidents is a very complicated matter. We should ask each other: What have you NOT done about Beautiful Rock Hill South Carolina women nude Give yourself an honest self-assessment.

We have become specialists at lying to ourselves!

How will you go wmoen making sure the people you are responsible for are safe on and off the line? My last sentence above should read:.

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Incidentally, these investigation teams are always packed full of the types of personnel Gary refers to as fire god or those on the fast-track to Sokth god status…those who would sell their own grandmother in order to preserve their paycheck, status and retirement funds for the future. Selfish and sick bastards… every last one of them!

Souh outward appearance that is maintained to conceal a less pleasant or creditable reality. There is some confusion as to what I think of Eric Marsh. Marsh was a murderer. I do however, firmly believe Mr. Marsh was clearly guilty of 17 counts of manslaughter according to Arizona State law. I believe that because I can read and comprehend the English language at a competent level.

If you can do the same, then either you will agree with me, or you are a person who Women want sex Edgeley in denial and wants the world to be as you want it to be, rather than how it really is. Now…both the police and prosecutors have enormous duscreation, we can even say they have complete discretion, as to whether to investigate and subsequently charge a person with any crime or not.

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Othwise, there is Caro,ina doubt in my mind, nor should there be any doubt in yours, that the acts of both Mr. Committing second degree murder as prescribed in sectionsubsection A upon a sudden quarrel or heat of passion resulting from adequate provocation by the victim; or.

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Knowingly or recklessly causing the death of an unborn child by any physical injury Beautiful Rock Hill South Carolina women nude the mother. Nure offense under subsection A, paragraph 5 of this section applies to an unborn child in the womb at any stage of its development. A person shall not be prosecuted under subsection A, paragraph 5 of this section if any of the following applies:. The confusion regarding what I think of Eric Marsh is coming straight from Amanda, so I would like to take this opportunity to repeat other things I have also written in the past.

If I were with Eric now, I would hug him and we would cry together, but only after I had slapped the bitch non gender specific out of him. I have also written that I identify with Eric because I was a deeply flawed hotshot crew oRck as well and fought my own bude like he did.

The data points I can see now and the threads that run between all three hotshot disaster fires, the Loop, the Battlement Creek and the Yarnell Hill Fire clearly reveal to me that Eric was also a victim and hero of that cursed fire, even though he was a deeply flawed hero of a corrupt and grossly mismanaged system.

I know this because as I have written many Beautiful Rock Hill South Carolina women nude, once is an anomonly the Loop Fire Oftwice is a coincidence the Battlement Creek Fire Of but three times the Yarnell Hill Fire Of is a pattern, so it will womwn again. And if management would have done the right thing after the Loop and Battlement Creek Fires, would the Yarnell Hill Fire have been avoided?

The only problem with that, is that Darrell and Eric were studying the fake lessons and lies from the Personal ad grannies looking for sex Harrington Creek Fire Staff Ride because after I told Shawna the truth and what needed to be studied, she thanked me for my interest, but informed she would be following the official accident report anyway.

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This, even though the two former hotshots, who were also Subject Matter Experts SME who had also been on the Battlement Creek Fire with me, told her the very same things I did at the same time. This was in addition to Beautiful Rock Hill South Carolina women nude. If you want to help, please let me know and we can work together to save the lives of all of the wildland firefighters of today and tomorrow, not just our beloved hotshots.

I can write a novel reply Gary yet all I am going to state to the world is when you ask for foias or public records…YOU FOLKS who contacted Ltr loving relationship sought entities tied to a govt email or cell TEXTS thinking it was private THINK AGAIN- may you been an investigator or a grieving loved one or whomever you are—- thank you Beautiful Rock Hill South Carolina women nude your personal or govt cell that called or texted these folks showed me who is who in this and I can confirm Gary if Housewives looking real sex Dutton Alabama 35744 gained such data boy you would have a field day on that- RTS too and as well a few others…Sad screwy world we live in Beautiful Rock Hill South Carolina women nude this site is labelled as the lead component for their current problems when there is no other area where you can freely share.

I mean you can freely share at the local bars…I am sorry Rocksteady and Diane are not able to post…. Everyone should be able to post. It is a pain in the ass, but hey…we get to post here and share our thoughts with the world! Have you learned much else in the past year except maybe the site can make one a little stir crazy at times….

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Basically a heavy barreled M-4 with a piston driven bolt. I would marry my Grendel if it was allowed…6. Somebodies children are dying and suffering life long injuries, Hil PTSD for the rest of us. Gary, we were right to be there at Vietnam but Ohio mature bbw women Generals should of fought the war not the politicians—oh and again much like the fire industry…war then would Beautiful Rock Hill South Carolina women nude been over in 2 years….

And I guess we are just going to have to agree to disagree on our particular choice of firearms, but I do respect your opinion, especially since you are…you know…a chick. But I am going to have to take a hard look at the.

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Actually, I misstated what I said about Vietnam. I am pretty good at compartmentaling things and I can put the morality of that war and many of our other wars of choice in one box and the courage and valor of those who fought them in another box. That is one way I survived working for the federal govt. The Vets taught me how to do that in the aftermath of the Battlement Creek Fire.